Combine in large bowl: 1 lb hamburger 1 lb ground pork (pork sausage but not heavily seasoned) 1 cup bread or cracker crumbs salt pepper a good sprinkling of ground cloves In a pan, melt 2-3 tblsp of butter and add chopped onion. Saute until soft Add to meat. Mix well and form into balls. Brown well on all sides. Stir in 1 cup of water of or a small can of beef broth. Season broth with salt, pepper and cloves. Cover and simmer until no longer pink in the middle. Before serving make a paste of milk and flour ( About 1/4 cup milk to 2-3 Tblspns of flour). Stir until smooth. Bring broth to a boil, stir in milk and flour mixture and cook until gravy is right thickness. Thin with milk if needed and adjust seasoning to taste. Serve over rice , noodles or mashed potatoes.